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you're listening to Ira the inception

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the extraordinary phenomenon

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investigations council presents epic

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voyages come join us as we enter an

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experience the great mysteries of the

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when all the young people had Britain

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started throwing tantrums and rioting in

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the streets The Washington Post tells us

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that they somewhat resembled the street

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uprisings in the Middle East but the

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British riders seem motivated more by

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greed than political fervor so in other

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words they don't have any problems with

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their political system is just greed

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okay kind of like when we our ancestors

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brought about a revolution to fight off

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the occupation of this country by

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British troops of course they were

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British citizens so actually it was

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their own troops but they held a

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revolution and they are still framed as

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Patriots and forefathers and founding

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fathers of the great American Republic

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home of the free land of the brave but

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when we look at people in places like

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Afghanistan or Iraq and when they try to

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throw off the occupying force while

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their insurgents are pro terrorists

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isn't it funny how words shipped around

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depending on who's using them and how

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they want to use him but we won't go

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into deep dark things than that because

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I'm sure most of you all are probably

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interested in the extraordinary and the

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anomalous I love that there's another

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word that I love anomaly anomaly anomaly

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is you know just a kind of a scientific

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term for WTF right what the heck is that

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I don't know it's an anomaly so when you

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hear somebody say well I'd synonymous

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then you know well they don't know what

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it is and that's okay too because I

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think all of us occasionally come across

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things we don't really quite know what

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it is but most of us are honest enough

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say what the heck I don't know what that

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is but a scientist you know it's kind of

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like a dark

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they can't admit that they don't know

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everything so they say well that's mine

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amelie okay I got it and speaking of

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anomalies I'm sure that on this program

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and many others some of the questions

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will be coming in will be asking about

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the ubiquitous you if oz identified

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flying objects you know and I we

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probably need to come up with another

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term because I'm point to the night sky

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and hanging and I see red green flashing

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lights and I know it's airplane but it's

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dark I can't see what kind it is so it's

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actually it's a identified flying object

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and of course we all know that a lot of

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things that are counted as UFOs probably

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have a mundane explanation satellites

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military test craft things like that

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that's why I really like to go back and

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look at old UFO incidents in fact I live

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very close to one right now I'm about

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eight miles down the road from little

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town called Aurora Texas and those of

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you who don't know about Aurora Texas

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there is even a state historical marker

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there that says legend has it that in

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1897 a spaceship crashed here in the

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pilot was buried in the local cemetery

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now what makes this story really special

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to me is that 1897 that's 66 years

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before the Wright brothers flew and this

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is before there was anything man-made in

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the air in fact there had been balloons

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but not free flying balloons during the

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War Between the States both sides would

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run up a balloon on a tether and have a

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guy out there with some binoculars and

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so balloons were nothing new but the

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first powered air ship

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in flight took place in 1904 the same

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years the Wright brothers flew and it

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was the California era so in 1897 there

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was no nothing man-made in the air and

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yet this story was covered in the

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newspapers in both Ellison forward and

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said a silver cigar-shaped object flying

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through the countryside struck a

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windmill at Aurora as it was settling

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towards Earth apparently under having

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some sort of difficulty exploded and the

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pieces went everywhere and it said the

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pilot the Dallas Morning News which is

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still in publication said the pilot

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show that he was quote not an inhabitant

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of this world end quote now we'll we'll

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save Aurora there's a lot weeks a rap

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battle roar but we'll save that for

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another night but I simply want to and

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for those of you who know about the

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aurora story or have heard about it

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before that the debunkers they can't

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deny that this was covered in the

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newspaper at the time they kind of gloss

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over the fact that it was not only in

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the dallas morning news but also in the

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forward papers and has was also

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mentioned in some of the other local

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papers around here that I've dug into

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but their main charge seems to be that

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well it was just a hoax story the the

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little town was having a hard time and

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they were trying to build up some

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publicity and get people to come and

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move to little town which that always

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kind of strikes me as odd who would

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think that you say hey a spaceship

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crashing and a little space man was here

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what's they going to do to draw maybe

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it's going to draw anybody to live there

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but anyway that that's been the argument

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that it was simply a hoax story planted

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in the newspapers to try to draw

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attention to the little town of Aurora

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well I that sounds reasonable enough and

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I'll listen to that for a good number of

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years until I finally got hold of the

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entire front page of the doubt

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this morning news for April the 19th

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1897 there are 16 stories on that front

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page this back at the time when there

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eight columns little bitty type so you

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could get 16 stories on the front page

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plus two whole columns of little bitty

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all 16 of the stories on this edition of

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the Dallas Morning News every single one

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of them that we're coming from

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correspondence as far north as Oklahoma

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and as far south as Austin Texas every

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single one of them was talking about the

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silver cigar-shaped object flying

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through the skies of North Texas so even

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if you want to continue to argue that

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maybe it didn't crash in aurora there is

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no question that some type of object was

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flying in 1897 at the time six years

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point out a little something that you

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may or may not know about that when the

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wright brothers flew at Kitty Hawk there

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were reporters from New York and

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this was south north carolina bleah and

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they were all there and they went back

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to the New York Times you're all the

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news that fits your newspaper of record

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have flown this airplane the editors at

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fly he would have given us wings and

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they refused to run the story in fact it

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the only reason they did that was what I

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call back bad journalism you know one

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magpie they'd all be sitting on the

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fence you can even throw rocks at them

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one of those Magpies to fly off then the

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whole flock takes off after him and

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there they go finally after about a year

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France and invited to come over there

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finally full of the development of the

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Wright brothers and the good old New

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demonstration at Kitty Hawk now why

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would I bother you with that little

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folks just because it's not in the

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newspaper doesn't mean it's not

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happening okay same thing with today

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with television if just because you

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don't hear better on television doesn't

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mean that it doesn't happen so we're

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going to be talking about all kinds of

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good stuff like that and if you want no

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bore about Aurora I'll be glad to take

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calls for that as well as just about

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anything else but it's funny how time

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flies when you're having fun and time is

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a very funny thing I'm sure that most of

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you're well aware that one of the big

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issues involved in UFOs is missing time

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the fella says hey I saw this UFO would

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six o'clock and immediately went home

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but when I got home it was seven o'clock

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and only I was only ten minutes away

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from home you know I'm missing 50

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minutes missing time that's a big factor

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in the fo genre and in the literature

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was all happening well

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it means is is that we're dealing with

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yet another dimension when I was in

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school we were taught there's only three

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dimensions and then finally they got

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talking about time and they've kind of

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quantum physicists are saying well you

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know could be as many as 12 dimensions

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and actually I think there's probably

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many more than that but we just hadn't

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got around to recognizing them yet or

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knowing that that's there but time seems

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to be one of these dimensions and so if

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that's the case then time is relative

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have you ever noticed when you're having

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fun time goes by real fast oh my I don't

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want to leave now I'm having fun but if

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you're not having a lot of fun for this

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party's awful boring well then time just

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drags so I think the time is obviously

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relative to the perceiver and possibly

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even to the its context within the

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dimensions for example I think we're all

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beginning to figure out that UFOs do not

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use ramjets okay they fly around on

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energy fields in energy fields and

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possibly flying along energy fields and

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and energy lines sometimes called ley

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lines along the earth and I think that's

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then we can see a big clue when in the

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literature you always hear that when you

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have 0 comes over the car stops and yet

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how many of you have talked to a witness

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or heard somebody saw UFO that said well

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then I put in the key and turn the

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ignition on I started the car again I

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know it's when that energy field comes

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over then it's not only negating gravity

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it's negating time and those Pistons

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just locked freeze and their time

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basically stands still and then when the

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energy field goes away then you're back

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into normal time the Pistons go back

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and there you go and it's kind of

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backhanded confirmation of this one

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night on a talk show when I was talking

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along these lines and a fellow called in

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says well I'm not so sure about that

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says I Drive a truck and said me in this

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other fellow we saw this year folks is

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but our trucks didn't stop running and I

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said well sir I said chances are you'd

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have a diesel he said yep I do I said

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well there you go and said diesel

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engines run on compressed gas but all

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the other person all the other cars run

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on an electrical system and it's

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dependent on the spark plugs and the

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electricity so when the energy field

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comes along then it freezes up the

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electricity everything stops flowing in

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the car stops but for the diesel engine

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then that's not dependent on electricity

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is just running offered compressed gas

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so it keeps going interesting huh okay

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well we're Chi we're coming up on the

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half hour we're going to take a short

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break here in a few minutes and let me

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catch my win more win you know go to

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fill that bag it and then we're going to

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come back and hopefully we'll have some

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calls coming in and the number again is

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88 89 192 355 and for all you good folks

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out there on the chat room and I'm

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seeing some wild names up there I'm

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seeing aardvark and uncle head and mode

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Mozilla bunt or something and and Jamie

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and Buck mush and our man listen I'll

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tell you what we got some good folks

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here tonight so if you've got some

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questions be sure go ahead and type them

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in and I've been assured that they have

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a procedure for getting these messages

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over this newfangled invention so at

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this point was taken about a 23 minute

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break and

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and got a great surprise for me anyway

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we have already got a caller come in its

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none none other than our own chase

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clusky chase how are you this evening on

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Jim Hoey oh well if I was any better I

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just be delirious that's awesome welcome

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to inception radio network this is off

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this place to be but I have a question

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actually a two-parter okay we'll give me

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one at a time my brain only functions

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you know with slow pace okay out of all

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your research and discovery and you have

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a lot your book's cover a plethora of

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topics and theory and complicated

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situations and out of all of them Jim

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was there one point when you have an

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occupant or a piece of evidence that you

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uncovered that really they do kind of

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sit back in your chair with that oh my

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gosh you know kind of wow what was that

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other there's a document and all we are

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talking five okay are you ready for this

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yes I though you know I've covered

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Kennedy assassination government

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cover-ups UFOs alien abductions all this

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weird stuff but I want to tell you this

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one of the strangest incidents that I

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ever had happened to me was back when I

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was working the newspaper and I begin to

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investigate satanic cults and i was

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making inquiries I'm starting to do some

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checking around let's check with my

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police sources and I think the reason as

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I recall was this was back the 70s and I

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think the reason for this sudden

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interest was that the cattle mutilations

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and and they were claiming that it was

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the result of a satanic cult or whatever

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which I eventually decided is not the

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case and I think you know that as well

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but I did start digging into satanic

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cults and I and next thing I know I was

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getting these odd phone calls and people

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would hang up and and then one day I

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showed up at work and there was a little

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doll of me with pins sticking in it and

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I accused my fellow news men of pulling

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this gag on me but nobody ever confessed

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and you know after a while after six

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months a year you'd think somebody would

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finally say yeah okay I did that but

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nobody ever said that and I don't know

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pretty strange it was like like I think

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there are some warped individuals out

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there somewhere absolutely accepted part

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of my questions which is a totally

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different question but it comes with the

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same preference which is out of all your

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research and discovery what do you most

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hope is not true and what you hope both

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hope is true out of all you've uncovered

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oh man you're really asking some hard

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questions here well not hard questions

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but oh my god and national I stood in

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line for three days and could you get

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near you all your fans were surrounded

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you it's like this was my first camp I

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was so hot I called like three times

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well and these are great questions okay

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I'll take I'll tell you the thing that I

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hope is not true but I know it is is

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that our votes do not count anymore

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thanks to computer voter fraud I've

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studied that looked at that enough I can

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still recall that back and I think 2000

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even before we had the great crisis over

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a hanging Chad I thought it was a bomb

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yeah i think it was ABC they gave a

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housewife twelve dollars worth of

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software and she was able to hack into a

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voting machine okay it's that simple and

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of course they have people who can sit

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back and hack and go in and change up

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the basic codes and I don't I we haven't

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got time to go through the list of

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states that have had voting fraud

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problems and I know California and

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several other states have decertified

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certain of these machines and yet they

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just keep going out by more and more and

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more and I'm out here in rural Texas and

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just up until the last election you know

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we were still using paper ballots and

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and all of a sudden now we've got the

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touchstone computer thing of course I

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talked to the election judge down there

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good old boy and I said if you think

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that you think these things could be all

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no no they tell us that these things

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can't be hacked they're just fine

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yeah okay thanks a lot I'd sure

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appreciate that and I think that's thing

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scares me worst is that when we don't

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have a vote we don't have a democracy

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you know I hope that's not true I hope

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that's not true but I'm afraid it is and

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what do you most hope body your research

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is absolutely true I asked his question

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to Nick Redfern and he heard the alien

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that looks like Angelina Jolie well I

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suppose I I could handle that oh but now

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actually I was thinking along similar

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lines I think there is a huge universe

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out there and it's an energetic universe

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you know we're all we're all beings of

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energy but we don't know that because

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we're just trapped in these meat sacks

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right and then background and course the

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people who would like to control this

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world they have their hard at work

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trying to make us overweight

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undernourished and putting GMOs and our

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food spraying chemicals in there they're

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doing everything they can to physically

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debilitate us and yet if we ever

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understood that the physical body is not

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really what us it's it's our energy and

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the correlation that I point out is

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chase it's like your computer okay your

463
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computer's just plastic and cardboard

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and a little bit of solder you know few

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wires so physically it's not much but

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your computer can add subtract can

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actually come up with artificial

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intelligence can actually do a lot of

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neat things and it's because of the

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energy that's all those little bits in

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there that are jumping around you get a

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billion them together and you've got

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artificial intelligence and you've got a

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computer that really can do something

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well okay we're all bits of energy you

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you're surrounded by an energy field we

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know that I'm surrounded by an energy

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field and may be individually we're not

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so much but boy collectively you know we

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could do we could

481
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miracles and this is a wonderful planet

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we live on I think that's one reason

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that I think a lot of people from the

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neighborhood and maybe not from the

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neighborhood come around here to check

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us out because we have a beautiful world

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and that we're not doing right by it as

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I think you would agree and if we could

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ever just get our act together and quit

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listening to the people who control

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everything we see in here thanks to

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their ownership over the corporate mass

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media I think and just start operating

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is at local levels and now and as in

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communities you know we could turn this

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whole place into a paradise in fact hey

497
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chase consider this the United States of

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America right now today is still very

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very rich in resources we've still got

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clean water except maybe for the Gulf

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and we've got a lots of coal and oil gas

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and minerals and we got all resources we

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need and we have a reasonably educated

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workforce now can with that in

505
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consideration I ask you why should we be

506
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in financial difficulties and then the

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answer you ready well the answer is

508
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because somebody wants it that way I

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absolutely agree there's definitely

510
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bigger players pulling the puppet

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strings and you know and it goes back

512
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way further than just a last couple of

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elections that's for sure that's for

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sure and instead of pointing the finger

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at them or put them on trial we're

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paying them why we're giving a bailouts

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and stimulus packages are we nuts or

518
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what well i think you know we forgot to

519
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ask the questions and hold people

520
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accountable and throwing the word of

521
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:39,480
sheep you know I know where we're just

522
00:28:44,810 --> 00:28:42,000
kind of going along and just concerned

523
00:28:46,910 --> 00:28:44,820
with some of our own issues and you know

524
00:28:48,530 --> 00:28:46,920
it doesn't affect my pocketbook you know

525
00:28:50,570 --> 00:28:48,540
with my brother's hungry whatever you

526
00:28:52,580 --> 00:28:50,580
know Astorino straight well you know in

527
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,590
all my years as a journalist I can't

528
00:28:56,270 --> 00:28:54,000
tell you how many times I've heard

529
00:29:00,290 --> 00:28:56,280
somebody say well let Washington take

530
00:29:04,430 --> 00:29:00,300
care of that well folks say half and

531
00:29:06,620 --> 00:29:04,440
it's not a pretty picture thank you so

532
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:06,630
much for taking my questions I you know

533
00:29:12,490 --> 00:29:10,650
really enjoy talking to you and this is

534
00:29:15,020 --> 00:29:12,500
awesome thank you for doing this

535
00:29:18,170 --> 00:29:15,030
anything else on your mind in that chase

536
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:18,180
well I could ask 50 more questions but I

537
00:29:21,140 --> 00:29:19,710
don't want to hog the time and I know

538
00:29:25,130 --> 00:29:21,150
there's a lot of people who want to talk

539
00:29:27,980 --> 00:29:25,140
to you so as I learned an S so I just I

540
00:29:30,260 --> 00:29:27,990
wasn't joking about how many times I

541
00:29:32,690 --> 00:29:30,270
tried to you know get up to you know

542
00:29:35,540 --> 00:29:32,700
talk to Jim and completely surrounded at

543
00:29:38,150 --> 00:29:35,550
all times his fans and people I couldn't

544
00:29:41,060 --> 00:29:38,160
get near him it was crazy so this is a

545
00:29:44,030 --> 00:29:41,070
great opportunity even though ray before

546
00:29:48,230 --> 00:29:44,040
bed maybe i need the higher security

547
00:29:51,140 --> 00:29:48,240
guys up tonight I don't think but I

548
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:51,150
think I see where you do that where you

549
00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:55,530
do that I what time come here all right

550
00:30:00,620 --> 00:29:58,290
there you go and then and then your

551
00:30:06,170 --> 00:30:00,630
payment will be you get to ask an extra

552
00:30:09,170 --> 00:30:06,180
question on your own oh thank you go

553
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:09,180
mall or pothole thanks chase and this

554
00:30:17,870 --> 00:30:12,090
very well Chase is another one of these

555
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:17,880
permanent timid temporary moving hosts

556
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:21,570
on here on epic voyages so be sure and

557
00:30:31,130 --> 00:30:26,730
check her out she is a dynamo an A and a

558
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:31,140
really sharp and thoughtful person okay

559
00:30:37,730 --> 00:30:33,450
do we have any more colors at the moment

560
00:30:41,810 --> 00:30:37,740
hello YUM yes yes this is Michael hey

561
00:30:44,090 --> 00:30:41,820
Michael how are you I'm Maude I'm cases

562
00:30:47,660 --> 00:30:44,100
co-hostess I ironic that I was able to

563
00:30:51,710 --> 00:30:47,670
get on right after her oh I a year in

564
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:51,720
chaser double team in me here well I got

565
00:30:55,460 --> 00:30:54,330
a good one for you and I'm curious about

566
00:30:59,090 --> 00:30:55,470
your opinion on this

567
00:31:02,380 --> 00:30:59,100
uh you miss as we say in the JFK

568
00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:02,390
assassination research community shoot

569
00:31:09,399 --> 00:31:06,120
okay I you know you're aware of course

570
00:31:15,020 --> 00:31:09,409
of this asteroid that's coming into our

571
00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:15,030
galaxy and Ella vast yeah no yeah right

572
00:31:22,159 --> 00:31:18,840
which has past Pluto now and is heading

573
00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:22,169
in but the ironic thing about this you

574
00:31:25,700 --> 00:31:23,820
know it's not coming from the Kuiper

575
00:31:30,020 --> 00:31:25,710
belt because the Kuiper belt isn't out

576
00:31:33,230 --> 00:31:30,030
that far so do you have any ideas of

577
00:31:35,570 --> 00:31:33,240
what this is since we don't have any

578
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:35,580
eyes out there really whether this is

579
00:31:43,399 --> 00:31:38,730
truly an asteroid or potentially

580
00:31:45,860 --> 00:31:43,409
something else oh boy you're trying to

581
00:31:47,779 --> 00:31:45,870
put me on the spot here no you don't

582
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:47,789
have to answer it you really don't but I

583
00:31:52,460 --> 00:31:49,770
wanted to know your opinion I hey

584
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:52,470
Michael actually I really I really can't

585
00:31:59,570 --> 00:31:56,130
because uh that whole issue is still in

586
00:32:01,610 --> 00:31:59,580
my file okay I've looked at I've looked

587
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:01,620
at all the information coming down the

588
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:03,330
pike from here there and everywhere and

589
00:32:08,090 --> 00:32:05,130
I just have scratched my head and say

590
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:08,100
huh because but I'll tell you this I

591
00:32:16,310 --> 00:32:10,650
don't think we're getting paid of it

592
00:32:20,870 --> 00:32:16,320
from the experts that we would expect to

593
00:32:22,070 --> 00:32:20,880
get the stray account from for one thing

594
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:22,080
there's several things that really

595
00:32:27,500 --> 00:32:24,330
bother me number one of course is the

596
00:32:30,220 --> 00:32:27,510
doomsday seed vault in Spitsbergen

597
00:32:34,490 --> 00:32:30,230
Norway where they salted away every

598
00:32:37,580 --> 00:32:34,500
heirloom seed on the planet in am in a

599
00:32:40,610 --> 00:32:37,590
air proof vault in a granite mountain

600
00:32:42,860 --> 00:32:40,620
you know and then you look and see who

601
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:42,870
with the sponsors of that and we find

602
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:46,169
its Bill Gates and it's the Rockefeller

603
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:50,130
Foundation and in conjunction with the

604
00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:53,330
country of Norway and Monsanto and

605
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:55,799
interesting and interestingly enough

606
00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:58,010
Monsanto's not putting any of their

607
00:33:03,289 --> 00:33:01,260
damned old Terminator seeds in there you

608
00:33:05,090 --> 00:33:03,299
know that you have to go back by every

609
00:33:07,850 --> 00:33:05,100
year there's they're putting heritage

610
00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:07,860
and heirloom seeds you got it we got

611
00:33:11,660 --> 00:33:09,420
that right

612
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:11,670
we find out that the latest telescope

613
00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:13,890
our latest radio telescope is being

614
00:33:19,550 --> 00:33:17,070
built in Antarctica and then a Vatican

615
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:19,560
that the Vatican is building a radio

616
00:33:22,970 --> 00:33:21,660
telescope in an arch again of course the

617
00:33:27,380 --> 00:33:22,980
people who've been trying to tell us

618
00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:27,390
about Planet X or the b-room wood or

619
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:29,460
whatever you want to call it they all

620
00:33:34,220 --> 00:33:31,260
say it's going to be coming in from the

621
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:34,230
south so that means Antarctica would be

622
00:33:39,530 --> 00:33:36,210
the ideal location to try to spot

623
00:33:41,690 --> 00:33:39,540
something like this coming in and I

624
00:33:43,850 --> 00:33:41,700
don't know there's just a lot of things

625
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:43,860
going on that really bothered me and yet

626
00:33:50,780 --> 00:33:48,480
you ask you know the science guy or the

627
00:33:52,100 --> 00:33:50,790
guy on the TV or somebody at NASA they

628
00:33:55,420 --> 00:33:52,110
are gone I don't know where about

629
00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,430
everything's packed but of course I

630
00:33:59,690 --> 00:33:57,720
Michael I think you probably live long

631
00:34:01,610 --> 00:33:59,700
enough as I have to know that just

632
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:01,620
because they tell you everything fans is

633
00:34:07,010 --> 00:34:04,890
not only eating that is bad because I

634
00:34:08,570 --> 00:34:07,020
hit you I can still remember when they

635
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:08,580
told us there was light at the end of

636
00:34:13,580 --> 00:34:10,890
the tunnel in Vietnam we had that thing

637
00:34:15,470 --> 00:34:13,590
covered you know everything was good we

638
00:34:17,659 --> 00:34:15,480
were going to be able to pull out there

639
00:34:19,850 --> 00:34:17,669
and we had everything under control and

640
00:34:22,700 --> 00:34:19,860
of course then we got the Ted offenses

641
00:34:24,919 --> 00:34:22,710
and yeah that all went down the drain in

642
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:24,929
a hurry I remember that six or seven

643
00:34:30,980 --> 00:34:28,110
more years of war so that right yeah

644
00:34:33,140 --> 00:34:30,990
well the interesting things Jim they're

645
00:34:35,540 --> 00:34:33,150
saying that you know this thing is going

646
00:34:37,580 --> 00:34:35,550
to come within 22 million miles now that

647
00:34:39,980 --> 00:34:37,590
sounds like a lot but when you consider

648
00:34:42,590 --> 00:34:39,990
the Sun is what 93 million miles away

649
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:42,600
this thing is going to be huge in the

650
00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:44,370
sky and I think we're supposed to start

651
00:34:51,230 --> 00:34:46,500
seeing it like in January if i'm not

652
00:34:52,730 --> 00:34:51,240
mistaken maybe before i'd be yeah i

653
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:52,740
think the thing we have to worry about

654
00:34:58,910 --> 00:34:56,730
is the mass and that that's what I can't

655
00:35:01,040 --> 00:34:58,920
seem to get a handle on first result

656
00:35:03,350 --> 00:35:01,050
it's an asteroid and then we're told no

657
00:35:06,610 --> 00:35:03,360
it's just a comet just this dirty ball

658
00:35:11,710 --> 00:35:06,620
of ice but you know even comets have

659
00:35:14,810 --> 00:35:11,720
some mass and or can pull a various

660
00:35:16,850 --> 00:35:14,820
asteroids and piece of space junk along

661
00:35:21,500 --> 00:35:16,860
with it and of course then we're told

662
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:21,510
maybe it's a dwarf star or a dark star

663
00:35:24,559 --> 00:35:22,890
that's imploded if

664
00:35:28,009 --> 00:35:24,569
that's the case then you that could

665
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:28,019
explain why we can't see much and yet

666
00:35:34,430 --> 00:35:30,690
and yet the mass could be incredible

667
00:35:37,279 --> 00:35:34,440
okay and if it's coming that close even

668
00:35:40,430 --> 00:35:37,289
with just a little bit of mass you know

669
00:35:43,430 --> 00:35:40,440
that it's going to cause disturbances on

670
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:43,440
there just because of celestial

671
00:35:49,789 --> 00:35:45,690
mechanics and the stress of

672
00:35:53,380 --> 00:35:49,799
gravitational pull exactly and if it's a

673
00:35:56,089 --> 00:35:53,390
dark bar or a dark black hole or a

674
00:35:57,650 --> 00:35:56,099
another form of energy coming from outer

675
00:36:00,890 --> 00:35:57,660
space that we don't even have a clue

676
00:36:03,799 --> 00:36:00,900
about who really knows what this thing

677
00:36:06,170 --> 00:36:03,809
is going to be well i can tell you i can

678
00:36:13,099 --> 00:36:06,180
tell you right now with absolute surety

679
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:13,109
okay in what it's an anomaly need to

680
00:36:19,370 --> 00:36:14,730
bring that we're back into this all

681
00:36:22,849 --> 00:36:19,380
tried to bring that back up yeah it is

682
00:36:25,579 --> 00:36:22,859
an anomaly anything is it it's okay

683
00:36:27,980 --> 00:36:25,589
folks it's okay no go back go back sleep

684
00:36:30,289 --> 00:36:27,990
is just an anomaly coming in that's

685
00:36:32,569 --> 00:36:30,299
enjoyed it it's one of those things that

686
00:36:33,799 --> 00:36:32,579
we have a strange word for but we don't

687
00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:33,809
even know what the meaning of the word

688
00:36:43,279 --> 00:36:41,430
is quick well I want to clog up the line

689
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:43,289
Jim it's been great talking with you

690
00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:45,450
well thank you and I wait and you know

691
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:48,089
it's a good question and I would pass

692
00:36:53,509 --> 00:36:51,119
everybody with half brain one I to keep

693
00:36:57,140 --> 00:36:53,519
an eye on this issue because there's

694
00:36:59,059 --> 00:36:57,150
something coming in and unless it really

695
00:37:02,359 --> 00:36:59,069
is just some kind of little bitty old

696
00:37:04,759 --> 00:37:02,369
copy with a few balls of ice it could

697
00:37:08,049 --> 00:37:04,769
cause some disturbances on this planet

698
00:37:11,329 --> 00:37:08,059
and so I would pay more attention to

699
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:11,339
Elenin than I would is going to be

700
00:37:20,269 --> 00:37:15,690
Americans idol you got that right thank

701
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:20,279
you thank you you bet all right all

702
00:37:31,549 --> 00:37:27,990
right now anybody else glad hi Jim all

703
00:37:34,970 --> 00:37:31,559
right hi it's Christine Dickie / Wilder

704
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:34,980
on the state director for Arizona and I

705
00:37:40,710 --> 00:37:36,610
just wanted to add a

706
00:37:44,870 --> 00:37:40,720
went to the last topic that we you were

707
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:44,880
talking about and back in 2009 in

708
00:37:51,030 --> 00:37:48,760
February I was taking a lot of photos

709
00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:51,040
going out at night setting up my nikon

710
00:38:02,280 --> 00:37:56,680
d90 on on tripod taking photos of stuff

711
00:38:04,710 --> 00:38:02,290
out here in arizona and i downloaded one

712
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:04,720
of my my little chips on the computer

713
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:07,690
and i was actually taking a picture of

714
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:09,190
something else when there was this

715
00:38:16,620 --> 00:38:12,010
little gray object right in the middle

716
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:16,630
of the the photo so i enlarge the object

717
00:38:26,220 --> 00:38:21,010
and lo and behold it's a rock it is a

718
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:26,230
big rock I have a 300 millimeter lens on

719
00:38:31,650 --> 00:38:28,090
that thing so it can shoot way out in

720
00:38:34,740 --> 00:38:31,660
his face but I was gnarly what order so

721
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:34,750
it's not a dirty snowball oh no sir it

722
00:38:39,990 --> 00:38:37,450
was it was actually being followed by

723
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:40,000
three objects that were leaving an

724
00:38:45,930 --> 00:38:44,050
ionized trail row and they were domed

725
00:38:50,070 --> 00:38:45,940
objects so you tell me if those are

726
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:50,080
dirty snowballs and i sent i sent that

727
00:38:54,990 --> 00:38:52,570
photo to National Geographic i sent it

728
00:38:57,570 --> 00:38:55,000
to university of arizona i sent it to

729
00:38:59,760 --> 00:38:57,580
new science magazine and a couple of

730
00:39:04,560 --> 00:38:59,770
others and never heard a peep from

731
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:04,570
anybody well and what let's consider

732
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:07,510
this and christine this then just to you

733
00:39:15,810 --> 00:39:10,170
this is everyone that's listening now

734
00:39:19,820 --> 00:39:15,820
and on and in the chat room if you came

735
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:19,830
into evidence like you say you have

736
00:39:25,950 --> 00:39:23,530
there something really coming in and if

737
00:39:28,830 --> 00:39:25,960
it was something that you think might be

738
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:28,840
a real awakening for the world i'm

739
00:39:34,530 --> 00:39:31,450
either either good because hey we're

740
00:39:38,370 --> 00:39:34,540
here your space for the savior or we're

741
00:39:42,180 --> 00:39:38,380
here to eat you whatever you like ya

742
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:42,190
think yeah but think about it there is a

743
00:39:48,090 --> 00:39:45,430
responsibility on the people who have

744
00:39:49,970 --> 00:39:48,100
leadership positions they they don't

745
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:49,980
want to cause

746
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:53,310
chaos and panic among the population and

747
00:39:57,620 --> 00:39:55,530
you know where I'm speaking here with a

748
00:39:59,599 --> 00:39:57,630
group of people you guys have your eyes

749
00:40:01,640 --> 00:39:59,609
and ears and your minds open or you

750
00:40:03,170 --> 00:40:01,650
wouldn't be little again but think about

751
00:40:06,370 --> 00:40:03,180
everybody else don't we have an

752
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:06,380
obligation to somehow tell them in a

753
00:40:13,780 --> 00:40:09,480
soft easy way that you know their their

754
00:40:16,340 --> 00:40:13,790
their worldview is fixing to change yeah

755
00:40:19,609 --> 00:40:16,350
but you know the remarkable thing is

756
00:40:22,910 --> 00:40:19,619
that these three UFOs were pushing that

757
00:40:25,099 --> 00:40:22,920
thing away from us we'll see there you

758
00:40:29,180 --> 00:40:25,109
go maybe it's a good thing what is more

759
00:40:32,359 --> 00:40:29,190
wonderful than that yeah yeah I mean

760
00:40:34,070 --> 00:40:32,369
they're watching out for us yeah well

761
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:34,080
and I would and you know Christine I

762
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:39,330
would suspect so because it you know if

763
00:40:43,970 --> 00:40:41,369
you go back and i'm sure you have most

764
00:40:45,830 --> 00:40:43,980
of the people lobe studied UFOs for

765
00:40:48,230 --> 00:40:45,840
years you know the history you know

766
00:40:51,140 --> 00:40:48,240
they've been here every since the big

767
00:40:54,170 --> 00:40:51,150
dawn of before we listed before we

768
00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:54,180
working okay so so if their objective

769
00:40:59,330 --> 00:40:57,330
was to take over the planet or kill us

770
00:41:02,660 --> 00:40:59,340
or eat us or something they would have

771
00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:02,670
done it long before now now i'm not one

772
00:41:06,650 --> 00:41:04,680
of these that thinks that they're our

773
00:41:08,540 --> 00:41:06,660
space brothers and sisters and they're

774
00:41:10,609 --> 00:41:08,550
going to come full our iron out of the

775
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:10,619
fire I think you know when you make your

776
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:15,090
bed you have to line it okay but but I

777
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:16,530
don't think they're going to sit around

778
00:41:21,530 --> 00:41:19,170
and let us be destroyed particularly if

779
00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:21,540
it's something that we don't have the

780
00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:23,609
capability of doing anything about so

781
00:41:27,980 --> 00:41:25,140
what you're telling me is really quite

782
00:41:29,690 --> 00:41:27,990
fascinating me what is that skill yeah

783
00:41:31,460 --> 00:41:29,700
what if what if they are out there

784
00:41:34,310 --> 00:41:31,470
pushing something away from this a

785
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:34,320
little bit so we don't you know that's a

786
00:41:39,620 --> 00:41:37,050
it's a real saying something it really

787
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:39,630
is ready and I'd love to send this photo

788
00:41:44,540 --> 00:41:41,490
to you guys if you want it because it

789
00:41:47,540 --> 00:41:44,550
really shows a lot well please do i'd

790
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:47,550
love see you then okay and our email by

791
00:41:52,910 --> 00:41:50,220
the way so oh no there you go send it by

792
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:52,920
email and send a copy to ken cherry do

793
00:41:59,120 --> 00:41:56,010
oh well I cheese can you know there's so

794
00:42:01,520 --> 00:41:59,130
much I could talk about that anyway I'll

795
00:42:03,210 --> 00:42:01,530
let somebody else get online well

796
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:03,220
alright let me hang on

797
00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:04,810
I want you to hang on this minute

798
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:07,390
Christine I want to simply reiterate

799
00:42:16,530 --> 00:42:11,410
that this is epic voyages this is the

800
00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:16,540
radio format for the epic voyages which

801
00:42:22,140 --> 00:42:18,760
is the correct me if I'm wrong at

802
00:42:26,570 --> 00:42:22,150
extraordinary phenomenon investigations

803
00:42:29,370 --> 00:42:26,580
council I believe that's correct and we

804
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:29,380
looking in all kinds of things and with

805
00:42:35,099 --> 00:42:31,770
me right now is Christine Dickey and

806
00:42:37,650 --> 00:42:35,109
Christine just very very briefly before

807
00:42:39,660 --> 00:42:37,660
you go reiterate what you just said for

808
00:42:43,830 --> 00:42:39,670
those who may be just joining in or

809
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:43,840
didn't get to hear that bridge februari

810
00:42:50,490 --> 00:42:47,830
19th i was at my backyard taking photos

811
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:50,500
actually i saw an object between two

812
00:42:54,060 --> 00:42:52,510
houses and was going back and forth I

813
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:54,070
didn't know what it was and I thought oh

814
00:42:58,530 --> 00:42:56,290
heck I was going to try out my new

815
00:43:01,349 --> 00:42:58,540
camera and take a photo and I took

816
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:01,359
several but when i came back in and put

817
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:02,890
them on the computer there was this

818
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:06,010
anomalous gray object right in the

819
00:43:09,870 --> 00:43:08,170
middle of the photo and there was a

820
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:09,880
bunch of little bunch like a whole

821
00:43:16,349 --> 00:43:13,210
cluster and so I enlarge that and lo

822
00:43:19,410 --> 00:43:16,359
behold it's definitely an asteroid there

823
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:19,420
is no doubt in my mind and also there's

824
00:43:26,550 --> 00:43:23,170
three UFOs in this photo showing that

825
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:26,560
they are accompanying this asteroid now

826
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:29,290
probably more than likely to make sure

827
00:43:33,780 --> 00:43:31,210
that it doesn't smash into our planet

828
00:43:35,579 --> 00:43:33,790
well Christine what gives you an

829
00:43:37,740 --> 00:43:35,589
impression that they were trying to

830
00:43:41,820 --> 00:43:37,750
exert some influence on it i push it

831
00:43:44,099 --> 00:43:41,830
bullet or whatever well obviously they

832
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:44,109
don't want to see us destroyed or they

833
00:43:51,210 --> 00:43:46,050
want at least keep it away from a

834
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:51,220
population populated area my guess is

835
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:55,330
that if this thing hit us it would be

836
00:44:02,940 --> 00:43:58,960
like the end of the dinosaurs over again

837
00:44:04,530 --> 00:44:02,950
oh yeah well maybe it maybe maybe they

838
00:44:08,370 --> 00:44:04,540
want to make sure they get to see the

839
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:08,380
conclusion of Harry Potter maybe they

840
00:44:12,420 --> 00:44:10,089
just don't want to blow up so well they

841
00:44:14,790 --> 00:44:12,430
can come back right anyway all right

842
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:14,800
well thank you so much for the call that

843
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:16,570
was quite fascinating so now we have

844
00:44:27,550 --> 00:44:22,630
okay I think we have Thank You Christine

845
00:44:37,210 --> 00:44:27,560
um i think is james james are used on

846
00:44:41,710 --> 00:44:37,220
hold is james out there old deal all

847
00:44:43,510 --> 00:44:41,720
right who we got next on here alright

848
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:43,520
well i think i'll tell you what let me

849
00:44:51,250 --> 00:44:48,610
an answer to fix alien i guess it is and

850
00:44:53,620 --> 00:44:51,260
since this is a Vick sale in i'm

851
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:53,630
assuming this may be a female so i'm

852
00:45:00,310 --> 00:44:56,720
going to say she is asking do I think

853
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:00,320
the Tunguska crash could have been a UFO

854
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:02,450
and I want to taste something I've

855
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:04,640
written about that and I've studied that

856
00:45:12,580 --> 00:45:08,450
for many years and the bottom line

857
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:12,590
answer is yes and the reason I say that

858
00:45:20,050 --> 00:45:16,190
is because there is good evidence both

859
00:45:23,950 --> 00:45:20,060
eyewitness and and otherwise that the

860
00:45:28,980 --> 00:45:23,960
the object that created this giant

861
00:45:31,870 --> 00:45:28,990
explosion over Siberia beckon 1907 1909

862
00:45:35,260 --> 00:45:31,880
that was monitored all around the world

863
00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:35,270
that there was a course correction at

864
00:45:43,210 --> 00:45:39,950
the last moment and of course a meteor

865
00:45:45,940 --> 00:45:43,220
doesn't make a course correction and

866
00:45:48,210 --> 00:45:45,950
also I have reasonably that there's more

867
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,220
to it than we know or have been told

868
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:51,200
because of my dealing with the Army's

869
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:53,930
remote viewing unit and some of them

870
00:45:58,210 --> 00:45:55,610
went to take a look at that and they

871
00:46:02,680 --> 00:45:58,220
said it was here comes that word again

872
00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:02,690
it was known on anonymous guy came

873
00:46:09,630 --> 00:46:06,950
saying that anonymous object so I think

874
00:46:13,180 --> 00:46:09,640
there was something going on there and

875
00:46:18,610 --> 00:46:13,190
we haven't been told the full straight

876
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:18,620
of all of that and as as fix alien

877
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:22,130
points out whatever blew up blew up

878
00:46:27,430 --> 00:46:25,130
before it hits ground because there's no

879
00:46:30,850 --> 00:46:27,440
crater and yet it it created an

880
00:46:31,330 --> 00:46:30,860
explosion that was tantamount to a low

881
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:31,340
year

882
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:35,810
nuclear explosion um okay we've got a

883
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:39,710
question from just Sarah oh listen to

884
00:46:46,870 --> 00:46:43,520
come on Sarah is not just there it's d

885
00:46:49,780 --> 00:46:46,880
Sarah where else can find information on

886
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:49,790
Aurora I'm what do research paper on it

887
00:46:57,010 --> 00:46:51,970
okay well come to Wise County you know

888
00:46:59,380 --> 00:46:57,020
i'll give you a tour aurora texas by the

889
00:47:04,510 --> 00:46:59,390
way is located about 20 miles north of

890
00:47:09,870 --> 00:47:04,520
fort worth it's on highway 114 just off

891
00:47:13,720 --> 00:47:09,880
287 find more information on Aurora

892
00:47:17,980 --> 00:47:13,730
mm-hmm well Oh what am I thinking of of

893
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:17,990
course read alien agenda all right this

894
00:47:24,010 --> 00:47:21,530
is published back the 90s Publishers

895
00:47:26,290 --> 00:47:24,020
Weekly says the most entertaining and

896
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:26,300
complete overview of flying saucers and

897
00:47:34,650 --> 00:47:30,550
their crew in years and of course that's

898
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:34,660
alien agenda by jim marrs by my book and

899
00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:37,610
in there you will find i opened the

900
00:47:42,430 --> 00:47:39,710
whole thing up with my whole experiences

901
00:47:44,530 --> 00:47:42,440
newspaper reporter dealing with the

902
00:47:47,170 --> 00:47:44,540
Aurora spaceship story that'll be

903
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:47,180
that'll give you plenty of good places

904
00:47:57,160 --> 00:47:52,850
to to start um we have Jamie on the line

905
00:48:00,400 --> 00:47:57,170
is there Jamie yeah that's me oh hey

906
00:48:02,110 --> 00:48:00,410
Jamie how's it going it's going great

907
00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:02,120
and I want to say it's an honor having

908
00:48:08,380 --> 00:48:04,430
you around and such an radio I'm one of

909
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:08,390
the owners here and producers him I had

910
00:48:14,860 --> 00:48:10,250
a question for you since you're into

911
00:48:17,700 --> 00:48:14,870
conspiracy so much many of us i would

912
00:48:21,490 --> 00:48:17,710
say a great deal of us who explore

913
00:48:23,140 --> 00:48:21,500
conspiracy believe that the government

914
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:23,150
does not run the world who do you

915
00:48:30,370 --> 00:48:27,440
believe actually calls but they call

916
00:48:34,950 --> 00:48:30,380
should we think is acting as the final

917
00:48:39,970 --> 00:48:34,960
say in what goes on in our government

918
00:48:43,060 --> 00:48:39,980
boy well you know Jamie the problem but

919
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:43,070
the question like that is is that I've

920
00:48:47,319 --> 00:48:45,170
got two ways of answering

921
00:48:48,490 --> 00:48:47,329
can give you the 25 words or less in

922
00:48:50,020 --> 00:48:48,500
which case you're going to go where

923
00:48:53,859 --> 00:48:50,030
you're just nuts you know where'd you

924
00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:53,869
get that or I can background you to the

925
00:48:59,380 --> 00:48:56,720
point to where you go oh I see how that

926
00:49:01,299 --> 00:48:59,390
fits together but that would take hours

927
00:49:04,089 --> 00:49:01,309
and hours and you'd probably get bored

928
00:49:06,130 --> 00:49:04,099
and hang up go to sleep before I got

929
00:49:08,530 --> 00:49:06,140
finished with that so that's really a

930
00:49:12,030 --> 00:49:08,540
tough one but let me just say that the

931
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:12,040
people we see in the mass media

932
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:15,530
presidents prime ministers these are

933
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:18,530
just sock puppets okay they are people

934
00:49:27,370 --> 00:49:22,400
who are allowed to be or put into those

935
00:49:31,150 --> 00:49:27,380
positions and there are financial powers

936
00:49:33,460 --> 00:49:31,160
and i would say finances because i think

937
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:33,470
it was my Roth child who was quoted as

938
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:36,650
saying i care not who makes the laws as

939
00:49:41,740 --> 00:49:39,530
long as i can control the money because

940
00:49:44,049 --> 00:49:41,750
whoever controls the money it's the

941
00:49:46,839 --> 00:49:44,059
golden rule you know whoever has the

942
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:46,849
gold makes the rules and you know and

943
00:49:52,329 --> 00:49:49,010
you don't really hear about those people

944
00:49:55,589 --> 00:49:52,339
much okay and but they have front people

945
00:49:57,970 --> 00:49:55,599
they have the Rothschilds and the

946
00:50:01,930 --> 00:49:57,980
Rockefellers in the DuPont's and the

947
00:50:06,430 --> 00:50:01,940
morgans and these families who act as

948
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:06,440
their administrators and and that

949
00:50:09,970 --> 00:50:08,569
doesn't mean they're all necessarily bad

950
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:09,980
they're probably very capable

951
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:12,410
administrators but they do not make the

952
00:50:20,650 --> 00:50:18,170
decisions even even linen who supposedly

953
00:50:24,099 --> 00:50:20,660
like was the dictator of communism in

954
00:50:26,710 --> 00:50:24,109
Russia he said sometimes you turn the

955
00:50:28,569 --> 00:50:26,720
wheel car doesn't go that way and it's

956
00:50:32,130 --> 00:50:28,579
so I think he began to realize that

957
00:50:36,099 --> 00:50:32,140
there are forces in play on this planet

958
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:36,109
that whole much greater power than we

959
00:50:39,849 --> 00:50:38,089
even know about and if we don't even

960
00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:39,859
know about it then how can we talk about

961
00:50:43,510 --> 00:50:41,630
it if we can't talk about it then we

962
00:50:46,059 --> 00:50:43,520
can't do anything about it and that

963
00:50:47,980 --> 00:50:46,069
creates a real problem but Jamie I think

964
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:47,990
you're I think you're thinking in the

965
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:51,049
right direction and all I say all I can

966
00:50:56,859 --> 00:50:54,530
say is just keep studying yep just like

967
00:50:58,529 --> 00:50:56,869
the old saying money talks so thank you

968
00:51:02,109 --> 00:50:58,539
for taking my call

969
00:51:07,510 --> 00:51:02,119
well thank you thank you I appreciate it

970
00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:07,520
um I've got a question here online from

971
00:51:15,190 --> 00:51:11,630
bump mush okay says have you ever

972
00:51:17,319 --> 00:51:15,200
explored remote viewing yourself and as

973
00:51:19,900 --> 00:51:17,329
I am in fact that was quite an

974
00:51:23,620 --> 00:51:19,910
eye-opener for me because when I first

975
00:51:27,029 --> 00:51:23,630
heard the story about the US Army was

976
00:51:30,370 --> 00:51:27,039
using remote viewing to spy on the

977
00:51:33,069 --> 00:51:30,380
Soviets and the other potential enemies

978
00:51:36,490 --> 00:51:33,079
I jumped all over that story not because

979
00:51:39,819 --> 00:51:36,500
I felt remote doing work but because I

980
00:51:41,769 --> 00:51:39,829
thought what a waste of government money

981
00:51:44,680 --> 00:51:41,779
you know this is going to be a great

982
00:51:48,579 --> 00:51:44,690
story because here they are just

983
00:51:51,370 --> 00:51:48,589
frittering away the taxpayers money but

984
00:51:53,500 --> 00:51:51,380
then I find out after digging into it

985
00:51:56,170 --> 00:51:53,510
and and after being schooled in it

986
00:51:59,349 --> 00:51:56,180
myself and even being tested in it it

987
00:52:02,559 --> 00:51:59,359
really works and I will tell you about

988
00:52:05,620 --> 00:52:02,569
my personal experience the first time I

989
00:52:08,980 --> 00:52:05,630
tried remote viewing right after this

990
00:52:11,410 --> 00:52:08,990
break so everybody hold on to your

991
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:11,420
keyboards and hold on to your telephones

992
00:52:15,549 --> 00:52:14,089
and hang in there and we're going to

993
00:52:18,460 --> 00:52:15,559
take a short break when we come back

994
00:52:56,590 --> 00:52:18,470
we're going to continue this view from

995
00:52:56,600 --> 00:53:15,900
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996
00:53:21,190 --> 00:53:18,549
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997
00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:21,200
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998
00:53:25,539 --> 00:53:23,720
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999
00:53:29,109 --> 00:53:25,549
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1000
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:29,119
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1001
00:53:34,990 --> 00:53:32,569
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1002
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:35,000
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1003
00:53:39,819 --> 00:53:38,089
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1004
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00:53:45,730 --> 00:53:43,789
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1009
00:53:54,910 --> 00:53:52,369
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1010
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1011
00:54:00,160 --> 00:53:57,500
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1012
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:00,170
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1013
00:54:08,710 --> 00:54:03,049
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1014
00:54:11,140 --> 00:54:08,720
Mars on epic voyages of speaker before I

1015
00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:11,150
forget about it anybody that's around

1016
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:14,750
the Dallas forward theory on August the

1017
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:19,130
28th I will be making a presentation to

1018
00:54:25,980 --> 00:54:24,319
the epic meeting here you go to that big

1019
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:25,990
web statue find all the details

1020
00:54:31,720 --> 00:54:30,170
directions everything else and I don't

1021
00:54:33,460 --> 00:54:31,730
think you want to miss it when I'm only

1022
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:33,470
going to talk about the hidden history

1023
00:54:40,660 --> 00:54:37,390
of the world and try to cover that in a

1024
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:40,670
little more in an hour so that's kind of

1025
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:42,529
like saying well you know hey take a

1026
00:54:49,089 --> 00:54:45,849
minute and tell me everything you know

1027
00:54:53,769 --> 00:54:49,099
okay and I want to mention also once

1028
00:54:57,730 --> 00:54:53,779
again the call in number is 8 8 8 9 19 2

1029
00:55:00,730 --> 00:54:57,740
3 55 and I'm almost dead certain that

1030
00:55:03,910 --> 00:55:00,740
that is a toll-free number so don't

1031
00:55:09,759 --> 00:55:03,920
hesitate as chase and I were talking

1032
00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:09,769
about we may have a wallflower contest

1033
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:14,150
here to see who's the shyest person but

1034
00:55:16,150 --> 00:55:15,529
that's going to be a little difficult to

1035
00:55:18,010 --> 00:55:16,160
judge

1036
00:55:21,069 --> 00:55:18,020
I guess because the shyest person

1037
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:21,079
probably won't call in but let's work on

1038
00:55:27,660 --> 00:55:24,770
it let's all just sticker chin out and

1039
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:27,670
our best foot out and we're going to go

1040
00:55:35,549 --> 00:55:31,280
as I mentioned before we took the break

1041
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:35,559
I will tell you briefly my first

1042
00:55:40,150 --> 00:55:38,569
experiment with remote viewing and for

1043
00:55:47,950 --> 00:55:40,160
those of you who don't know what promote

1044
00:55:51,370 --> 00:55:47,960
doing is that is seeing visualizing

1045
00:55:58,720 --> 00:55:51,380
people places things at a distance

1046
00:56:02,650 --> 00:55:58,730
without using the normal five senses in

1047
00:56:04,539 --> 00:56:02,660
other words it's a psychic ability and I

1048
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:04,549
know there's probably a few of you out

1049
00:56:09,819 --> 00:56:07,490
there is going back because that's

1050
00:56:11,380 --> 00:56:09,829
exactly why I felt when I first heard

1051
00:56:13,809 --> 00:56:11,390
about it I thought this has got to be a

1052
00:56:19,620 --> 00:56:13,819
waste the taxpayers money so I'm gonna

1053
00:56:23,859 --> 00:56:19,630
dig into this story okay what you do is

1054
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:23,869
you get in a very meditative state and

1055
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:28,130
you allow your inner self to connect

1056
00:56:38,559 --> 00:56:34,130
with the universal energy grid and then

1057
00:56:41,289 --> 00:56:38,569
you can if you are allow yourself to and

1058
00:56:47,230 --> 00:56:41,299
if you're sensitive to it you can pick

1059
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:47,240
up the very subtle and slight input that

1060
00:56:51,940 --> 00:56:50,450
will come I'm sure that all of y'all at

1061
00:56:54,309 --> 00:56:51,950
one time another have had the experience

1062
00:56:57,309 --> 00:56:54,319
of thinking hey I think my mom's going

1063
00:56:59,609 --> 00:56:57,319
to call and then a few minutes later an

1064
00:57:03,370 --> 00:56:59,619
hour later phone rings and it's your mom

1065
00:57:06,730 --> 00:57:03,380
we all have this ability in fact that

1066
00:57:08,890 --> 00:57:06,740
was determined at research that was done

1067
00:57:11,500 --> 00:57:08,900
at stanford research institute out in

1068
00:57:14,069 --> 00:57:11,510
California they found out some amazing

1069
00:57:17,500 --> 00:57:14,079
things that we all have this capability

1070
00:57:20,470 --> 00:57:17,510
and that it's not limited by time or

1071
00:57:23,140 --> 00:57:20,480
space you revoked you in the past you

1072
00:57:24,730 --> 00:57:23,150
can remote view in the future so anyway

1073
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:24,740
when I first heard about it though I

1074
00:57:29,590 --> 00:57:27,529
wasn't I was pretty skeptical in fact I

1075
00:57:33,010 --> 00:57:29,600
was highly skeptical

1076
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:33,020
and so I was slated to fly out to

1077
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:35,450
Albuquerque and meet some of the guys

1078
00:57:40,060 --> 00:57:37,310
that have been in the Army's remote

1079
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:40,070
Union it and they were trying to start

1080
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:43,250
up a private business and I was told I

1081
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:44,960
was going out to meet with them at their

1082
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:47,930
headquarters so I'm thinking in terms of

1083
00:57:54,580 --> 00:57:51,130
an office building or whatever and so I

1084
00:57:57,850 --> 00:57:54,590
had a leg up on this whole thing because

1085
00:58:00,490 --> 00:57:57,860
back as a newspaper reporter I had done

1086
00:58:03,100 --> 00:58:00,500
a story on transcendental meditation and

1087
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:03,110
in the course of preparing for that

1088
00:58:07,960 --> 00:58:05,690
story that I they had actually taken me

1089
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:07,970
through a course and I'd learn how to

1090
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:11,690
set down and relax and kind of clear my

1091
00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:14,570
mind and get in a meditative state so I

1092
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:17,270
did that because that's one of the first

1093
00:58:21,610 --> 00:58:20,090
key steps and remote viewing and then I

1094
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:21,620
said okay I won't know what this

1095
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:24,290
headquarters going to look like well I

1096
00:58:31,540 --> 00:58:29,450
got a very definite impression of a not

1097
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:31,550
a clear picture okay if you sit down and

1098
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:33,110
close your eyes and you've got a very

1099
00:58:39,550 --> 00:58:35,930
clear picture of say a sassy island with

1100
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:39,560
a grass hut then the seagulls going by

1101
00:58:46,150 --> 00:58:42,410
on the waves landing on the White shore

1102
00:58:48,460 --> 00:58:46,160
that's daydreaming okay this is a very

1103
00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:48,470
subtle signal but I got a very distinct

1104
00:58:57,310 --> 00:58:51,290
impression of this one-story strip

1105
00:59:00,220 --> 00:58:57,320
shopping center type place with a kind

1106
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:00,230
of earthy dark earth tone but the

1107
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:01,970
corners of the building were raised

1108
00:59:06,970 --> 00:59:03,890
somebody and there was something jutting

1109
00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:06,980
out and this is where I made my first

1110
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:09,950
mistake I found out later this is called

1111
00:59:15,490 --> 00:59:12,710
analytic overlay it's when you begin to

1112
00:59:16,990 --> 00:59:15,500
try to consciously analyzing the

1113
00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:17,000
information that you're getting and

1114
00:59:21,370 --> 00:59:18,400
that's when you'll start making mistakes

1115
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:21,380
in other words if you see something tall

1116
00:59:26,590 --> 00:59:23,810
and pointed and filled with people you

1117
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:26,600
might say oh it's a rocket ship and then

1118
00:59:31,770 --> 00:59:29,450
no actually it's Washington money so you

1119
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:31,780
have to be careful of analytic overlay

1120
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:36,530
so I thought well since it's in

1121
00:59:42,250 --> 00:59:39,010
Albuquerque it was probably southwestern

1122
00:59:43,300 --> 00:59:42,260
architecture you know with the wooden

1123
00:59:46,090 --> 00:59:43,310
poles

1124
00:59:48,580 --> 00:59:46,100
sticking out the top building but then I

1125
00:59:51,220 --> 00:59:48,590
got also a very distinct impression of

1126
00:59:53,610 --> 00:59:51,230
the floor plan and I sketched it out the

1127
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:53,620
complete to writing down entrance

1128
01:00:00,190 --> 00:59:56,290
reception area large conference room

1129
01:00:02,890 --> 01:00:00,200
hallway offices and saw took this with

1130
01:00:05,050 --> 01:00:02,900
me out to my visit in Albuquerque when I

1131
01:00:07,990 --> 01:00:05,060
got out there I realized that I probably

1132
01:00:11,170 --> 01:00:08,000
wasn't worth the durn because their

1133
01:00:12,790 --> 01:00:11,180
office turned out to be fellows home and

1134
01:00:16,690 --> 01:00:12,800
it was a ranch-style home there's

1135
01:00:18,610 --> 01:00:16,700
nothing like what I had seen so I kind

1136
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:18,620
of tossed my drawings over to him I said

1137
01:00:26,740 --> 01:00:21,650
well I guess I'm not any good well a

1138
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:26,750
year later I went back and it seems that

1139
01:00:31,660 --> 01:00:29,810
in an intervening year they had not had

1140
01:00:35,650 --> 01:00:31,670
the success they wanted with trying to

1141
01:00:38,500 --> 01:00:35,660
hire their services to companies but

1142
01:00:41,950 --> 01:00:38,510
they had had some success in training

1143
01:00:46,420 --> 01:00:41,960
people to do remote viewing and so they

1144
01:00:48,970 --> 01:00:46,430
had leased space in a brand new office

1145
01:00:50,350 --> 01:00:48,980
building they drove me to this office

1146
01:00:52,510 --> 01:00:50,360
building and when I pulled in the

1147
01:00:54,280 --> 01:00:52,520
parking lot I looked took one look and I

1148
01:00:57,700 --> 01:00:54,290
realized that's what I had been seen

1149
01:00:59,860 --> 01:00:57,710
because it was a one-level strip

1150
01:01:02,110 --> 01:00:59,870
shopping center tap place and the

1151
01:01:05,590 --> 01:01:02,120
corners were raised but instead of

1152
01:01:09,100 --> 01:01:05,600
wooden pole sticking out it was Lions

1153
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:09,110
heads but there it was something jutting

1154
01:01:15,310 --> 01:01:10,910
out of the top of the Rays corner and

1155
01:01:18,940 --> 01:01:15,320
then they handed me the official for

1156
01:01:20,740 --> 01:01:18,950
plan from this office complex and I

1157
01:01:25,030 --> 01:01:20,750
looked at it and I was literally blown

1158
01:01:28,270 --> 01:01:25,040
away because it was 100% exactly what I

1159
01:01:31,630 --> 01:01:28,280
had drawn down to the writing with a

1160
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:31,640
head labeled entrance reception area

1161
01:01:37,030 --> 01:01:34,640
large conference room and in fact I am

1162
01:01:40,180 --> 01:01:37,040
now the opinion that I probably did not

1163
01:01:42,490 --> 01:01:40,190
Remote View the actual inside the

1164
01:01:44,860 --> 01:01:42,500
building I think I remote viewed the

1165
01:01:47,290 --> 01:01:44,870
floor plan because my drawing was

1166
01:01:49,540 --> 01:01:47,300
absolutely one percent but this floor

1167
01:01:52,150 --> 01:01:49,550
plan was and the kicker the whole story

1168
01:01:54,910 --> 01:01:52,160
is is that when I did the drawing and

1169
01:01:56,310 --> 01:01:54,920
did the remote viewing this building had

1170
01:01:58,860 --> 01:01:56,320
not been completed yet

1171
01:02:01,860 --> 01:01:58,870
it hadn't even been built so apparently

1172
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:01,870
I had remote viewed a little bit into

1173
01:02:08,940 --> 01:02:06,130
the future so that pretty well set me

1174
01:02:11,010 --> 01:02:08,950
back on my heels and that's when I got

1175
01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:11,020
serious about researching the history in

1176
01:02:15,660 --> 01:02:13,570
the science behind remote viewing and

1177
01:02:19,620 --> 01:02:15,670
for those of you who might be interested

1178
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:19,630
in that then all of that is together in

1179
01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:24,730
my book sigh spies psi spies psychic

1180
01:02:31,050 --> 01:02:29,110
spies sigh spies I think it's the true

1181
01:02:34,110 --> 01:02:31,060
story of America's psychic warfare

1182
01:02:36,210 --> 01:02:34,120
program and it's published by new page

1183
01:02:39,390 --> 01:02:36,220
books and I would encourage you get it

1184
01:02:42,150 --> 01:02:39,400
they did a very good job and it's a fine

1185
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:42,160
I still find it absolutely fascinating

1186
01:02:49,740 --> 01:02:47,290
subject and before I get to any more

1187
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:49,750
questions I already see somebody asking

1188
01:02:56,340 --> 01:02:52,570
do they still do remote viewing in the

1189
01:02:59,460 --> 01:02:56,350
US government and my answer is yes and

1190
01:03:01,650 --> 01:02:59,470
no if you ask if you have a group of

1191
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:01,660
people that are hired by the government

1192
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:03,490
to do remote viewing they're going to

1193
01:03:09,150 --> 01:03:06,970
say no and that's probably the truth but

1194
01:03:10,950 --> 01:03:09,160
there are people remote viewers who have

1195
01:03:14,340 --> 01:03:10,960
been trained and remote viewing who

1196
01:03:17,130 --> 01:03:14,350
operate within various units within the

1197
01:03:20,460 --> 01:03:17,140
government as I understand it Special

1198
01:03:22,620 --> 01:03:20,470
Forces Rangers the Delta Force the Navy

1199
01:03:25,290 --> 01:03:22,630
SEALs they'll always have a remote

1200
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:25,300
viewer along with them because even if

1201
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:28,330
they're not a hundred sent any unit

1202
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:29,890
commander would love to have somebody

1203
01:03:34,830 --> 01:03:32,020
who can tell them what might be going on

1204
01:03:36,750 --> 01:03:34,840
over the next hill so yeah they're

1205
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:36,760
they're still using it although they

1206
01:03:44,430 --> 01:03:39,130
don't like to admit to that well let's

1207
01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:44,440
see where we are now the Avenger wants

1208
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:46,240
to know if what I think about the

1209
01:03:53,870 --> 01:03:48,430
alleged Jackie O tapes and her

1210
01:03:58,080 --> 01:03:53,880
implication of LBJ and JFK's elimination

1211
01:04:00,930 --> 01:03:58,090
one elimination it wasn't assassination

1212
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:00,940
it was an execution and they executed

1213
01:04:05,430 --> 01:04:03,130
Kennedy for the same reason that we

1214
01:04:09,450 --> 01:04:05,440
execute criminals to serve as a

1215
01:04:11,700 --> 01:04:09,460
deterrent to prevent any

1216
01:04:14,460 --> 01:04:11,710
one from following in his footsteps and

1217
01:04:17,220 --> 01:04:14,470
what was his footsteps well he was

1218
01:04:19,140 --> 01:04:17,230
trying to curtail the power of the US

1219
01:04:21,810 --> 01:04:19,150
corporations he was trying to curtail

1220
01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:21,820
the power of the intelligence community

1221
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:23,920
threatened to splinter of the CIA into a

1222
01:04:29,130 --> 01:04:26,410
thousand pieces he was trying to curtail

1223
01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:29,140
the power of the FBI and he was trying

1224
01:04:33,510 --> 01:04:30,550
to curtail the power of the

1225
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:33,520
military-industrial complex and in fact

1226
01:04:42,329 --> 01:04:35,050
had set us on the course for

1227
01:04:46,050 --> 01:04:42,339
disengagement in Vietnam so it was that

1228
01:04:49,589 --> 01:04:46,060
they had to stop him and so with the

1229
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:49,599
coup of 1963 you know this country's

1230
01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:52,510
pretty well gone down the hill so when

1231
01:04:57,290 --> 01:04:54,670
Jackie O what they're talking about here

1232
01:04:59,640 --> 01:04:57,300
is that when Jackie Onassis passed away

1233
01:05:01,620 --> 01:04:59,650
it was actually mentioned in the

1234
01:05:04,410 --> 01:05:01,630
mainstream mass media that she had left

1235
01:05:07,740 --> 01:05:04,420
behind either a manuscript or a lot of

1236
01:05:09,780 --> 01:05:07,750
notes or some writings but that she said

1237
01:05:11,640 --> 01:05:09,790
they they were not to be made public

1238
01:05:14,579 --> 01:05:11,650
until after the death of all her

1239
01:05:17,609 --> 01:05:14,589
children which tells her that tells me

1240
01:05:19,620 --> 01:05:17,619
should tell it you that she had a

1241
01:05:22,950 --> 01:05:19,630
concern over the safety of her family

1242
01:05:25,740 --> 01:05:22,960
does that sound familiar let's think

1243
01:05:27,900 --> 01:05:25,750
back wasn't it h Ross Perot who was

1244
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:27,910
starting to make a third party one for

1245
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:30,430
the presidency and had a ground swell of

1246
01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:33,130
public support and then all of a sudden

1247
01:05:37,589 --> 01:05:35,650
he just dropped out and then when he

1248
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:37,599
finally came back around again he said

1249
01:05:42,510 --> 01:05:39,730
well he said I was fearful for the

1250
01:05:44,670 --> 01:05:42,520
safety of my family but well wait a

1251
01:05:48,359 --> 01:05:44,680
minute he was a presidential candidate

1252
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:48,369
doesn't that get him the some protection

1253
01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:52,930
from the FBI and the CIA and the US

1254
01:06:02,339 --> 01:05:56,950
military so who is he afraid of and I

1255
01:06:06,050 --> 01:06:02,349
submit them okay and Jackie O knew the

1256
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:06,060
same thing so when she implicates LBJ

1257
01:06:10,950 --> 01:06:09,010
you know let's face it Jackie was in a

1258
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:10,960
position to find out what's going on and

1259
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:14,170
if she wasn't then her soon-to-be

1260
01:06:20,670 --> 01:06:17,410
husband aristotle onassis who was a arch

1261
01:06:22,820 --> 01:06:20,680
enemy of the CIA he was certainly in a

1262
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:22,830
position to find out what was going on

1263
01:06:29,430 --> 01:06:26,110
now I'm going to tell you flat out folks

1264
01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:29,440
and I'll say it again LBJ is guilty in

1265
01:06:34,080 --> 01:06:31,570
the assassination of president john f

1266
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:34,090
kennedy now can I prove that he ordered

1267
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:37,210
it orchestrated it no but what I can't

1268
01:06:42,150 --> 01:06:39,490
prove and is beyond any reasonable

1269
01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:42,160
shadow of a doubt is that Lyndon Baines

1270
01:06:49,470 --> 01:06:45,790
Johnson took actions that blocked any

1271
01:06:52,590 --> 01:06:49,480
meaningful investigation of Kennedy's

1272
01:06:55,410 --> 01:06:52,600
assassination in including destruction

1273
01:06:58,050 --> 01:06:55,420
of evidence when he destroyed it had the

1274
01:07:00,060 --> 01:06:58,060
presidential limousine cleaned in Dallas

1275
01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:00,070
and then shipped the forward and then

1276
01:07:06,150 --> 01:07:02,530
stripped down and then rebuilt before

1277
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:06,160
there was any forensics investigation

1278
01:07:11,490 --> 01:07:08,170
done that's destruction of evidence that

1279
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:11,500
makes him an accessory after the fact

1280
01:07:17,670 --> 01:07:14,710
under our legal system and I know in

1281
01:07:20,430 --> 01:07:17,680
Texas we've executed accessories after

1282
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:20,440
the fact in murder cases where the

1283
01:07:25,140 --> 01:07:23,050
evidence clearly shows they didn't pull

1284
01:07:27,570 --> 01:07:25,150
the different but they were there they

1285
01:07:30,060 --> 01:07:27,580
knew about it and they did not turn

1286
01:07:32,340 --> 01:07:30,070
anybody in in fact they tried to hide

1287
01:07:34,710 --> 01:07:32,350
the murder weapon or tried to stall the

1288
01:07:36,990 --> 01:07:34,720
investigation and under our legal system

1289
01:07:39,270 --> 01:07:37,000
that makes them as guilty as the person

1290
01:07:41,820 --> 01:07:39,280
that pulls the trigger so as an

1291
01:07:44,970 --> 01:07:41,830
accessory after the fact Lyndon Baines

1292
01:07:48,750 --> 01:07:44,980
Johnson is guilty period in the story

1293
01:07:51,570 --> 01:07:48,760
and we're winding down here so let's get

1294
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:51,580
on here and I think Jackie O knew this

1295
01:07:57,680 --> 01:07:55,090
and so I think that she also knew that

1296
01:08:01,410 --> 01:07:57,690
there was a lot of political power

1297
01:08:04,170 --> 01:08:01,420
behind Johnson and that it was dangerous

1298
01:08:07,110 --> 01:08:04,180
to try to come out and say anything and

1299
01:08:08,790 --> 01:08:07,120
so that's why she stipulated that none

1300
01:08:10,980 --> 01:08:08,800
of her thoughts were to come out until

1301
01:08:13,770 --> 01:08:10,990
after the death of her children but I

1302
01:08:15,930 --> 01:08:13,780
understand Caroline Kennedy has relented

1303
01:08:17,849 --> 01:08:15,940
and said well okay and they're allowing

1304
01:08:20,519 --> 01:08:17,859
some of this stuff to come out now of

1305
01:08:23,610 --> 01:08:20,529
course Johnson labor to both dead now so

1306
01:08:26,910 --> 01:08:23,620
I guess you know once once they're dead

1307
01:08:29,309 --> 01:08:26,920
then it's okay to talk about it and this

1308
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:29,319
is one of my pet peeves by the way folks

1309
01:08:35,579 --> 01:08:33,730
is that I'm tired of waiting 50 years to

1310
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:35,589
find out what really happened which

1311
01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:36,310
still

1312
01:08:40,440 --> 01:08:38,410
finding out things that truly happened

1313
01:08:43,410 --> 01:08:40,450
in World War two that we didn't know at

1314
01:08:46,650 --> 01:08:43,420
the time or were denied and of course

1315
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:46,660
here we are just ten years after 911 and

1316
01:08:51,750 --> 01:08:49,150
we're still being sold a bill of goods

1317
01:08:53,309 --> 01:08:51,760
about that I don't want to wait 50 years

1318
01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:53,319
to find out what am I want to find out

1319
01:08:57,599 --> 01:08:55,630
what happened now so that some action

1320
01:08:59,880 --> 01:08:57,609
can be taken and so justice can be

1321
01:09:01,920 --> 01:08:59,890
served and I'm sorry if that makes me

1322
01:09:05,610 --> 01:09:01,930
sound like some kind of weirdo but I'm

1323
01:09:08,610 --> 01:09:05,620
just I'm just enough of a old Texas boy

1324
01:09:10,829 --> 01:09:08,620
that I and and have that cowboy spirit I

1325
01:09:12,900 --> 01:09:10,839
think rights right and wrong is wrong

1326
01:09:15,510 --> 01:09:12,910
and if smoke commits wrong I think there

1327
01:09:18,480 --> 01:09:15,520
needs to be justice done to it and I

1328
01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:18,490
don't think I'm being unpatriotic in

1329
01:09:25,260 --> 01:09:21,310
fact I'm only following what I myself

1330
01:09:27,210 --> 01:09:25,270
heard President George W Bush say a day

1331
01:09:30,690 --> 01:09:27,220
or so after nine eleven he said

1332
01:09:32,670 --> 01:09:30,700
essentially we must not rest until we

1333
01:09:35,250 --> 01:09:32,680
find out who's responsible for this

1334
01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:35,260
crime and see that they're punished so

1335
01:09:42,180 --> 01:09:37,630
I'm just trying to do what he advocated

1336
01:09:44,220 --> 01:09:42,190
and sorry about that but we're now

1337
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:44,230
finding out the train you know back in

1338
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:47,290
the 60s and 70s I was trying to tell

1339
01:09:51,540 --> 01:09:49,210
people there was big conspiracy to kill

1340
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:51,550
Kennedy and I was the nut and the

1341
01:09:57,390 --> 01:09:54,010
conspiracy theorist and today almost

1342
01:09:59,280 --> 01:09:57,400
everybody agrees with me and now there's

1343
01:10:02,040 --> 01:09:59,290
things being accepted as just

1344
01:10:04,980 --> 01:10:02,050
self-evident truth such as Jack Ruby is

1345
01:10:07,590 --> 01:10:04,990
connected to organized crime which for

1346
01:10:09,390 --> 01:10:07,600
20 years or more they say oh that's all

1347
01:10:11,580 --> 01:10:09,400
right when you get that you're making

1348
01:10:14,340 --> 01:10:11,590
that stuff up that can't be your death

1349
01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:14,350
not true you're just a conspiracy

1350
01:10:20,250 --> 01:10:16,960
theorist so anyway sorry to get on my

1351
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:20,260
soapbox but I just get irritated when it

1352
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:26,650
takes 50 years for truth to come out but

1353
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:28,810
my salsa wants to know about the party

1354
01:10:33,390 --> 01:10:30,850
celebration the night before the Kennedy

1355
01:10:36,330 --> 01:10:33,400
assassination well I think what he's

1356
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:36,340
referring to is the fact that the Secret

1357
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:38,290
Service agents that were signed to

1358
01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,250
protect Kennedy we're all drinking first

1359
01:10:49,050 --> 01:10:45,040
at the Fort Worth Press Club which I was

1360
01:10:52,500 --> 01:10:49,060
a former president of and at

1361
01:10:55,650 --> 01:10:52,510
Pat Kirkwood cellar club in Fort Worth

1362
01:10:57,510 --> 01:10:55,660
and in fact the Secret Service agent

1363
01:10:59,550 --> 01:10:57,520
said the Texas hotel there in Fort Worth

1364
01:11:02,430 --> 01:10:59,560
that were supposed to be standing guard

1365
01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:02,440
for Kennedy they sneaked off to get a

1366
01:11:07,050 --> 01:11:04,810
drink and left a couple of Fort Worth

1367
01:11:10,380 --> 01:11:07,060
firemen to protect the President of the

1368
01:11:14,820 --> 01:11:10,390
United States that's fact how's that

1369
01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:14,830
grab you and at the cellar club they I

1370
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:16,990
know people who I've been in the cellar

1371
01:11:23,730 --> 01:11:20,170
club and in fact I got to be friends

1372
01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:23,740
with Pat Kirkwood who the cops all told

1373
01:11:29,490 --> 01:11:27,330
me was the jack ruby of Fort Worth and

1374
01:11:31,530 --> 01:11:29,500
of course he told the warren commission

1375
01:11:33,420 --> 01:11:31,540
that they couldn't have been drinking

1376
01:11:36,510 --> 01:11:33,430
because he didn't have a liquor license

1377
01:11:38,910 --> 01:11:36,520
he was an after-hours Club every year go

1378
01:11:41,100 --> 01:11:38,920
there after you know the movies in your

1379
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:41,110
day to you went to party nigo the cellar

1380
01:11:46,380 --> 01:11:44,170
and it's interesting because the cellar

1381
01:11:49,050 --> 01:11:46,390
started off in a basement it wasn't a

1382
01:11:51,030 --> 01:11:49,060
seller but then fairly quickly he moved

1383
01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:51,040
and I always thought it's funny because

1384
01:11:54,750 --> 01:11:52,750
they called it the seller but you had to

1385
01:11:57,260 --> 01:11:54,760
climb this huge flight of stairs go up

1386
01:12:03,000 --> 01:11:57,270
to the second floor to get to the cellar

1387
01:12:04,980 --> 01:12:03,010
but I do know people who were there news

1388
01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:04,990
people and they said that the Secret

1389
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:07,930
Service they were not partying okay the

1390
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:10,330
party going on they were sitting over by

1391
01:12:15,510 --> 01:12:12,970
themselves drinking heavily until like

1392
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:15,520
five in the morning and they were

1393
01:12:20,970 --> 01:12:18,610
drinking because even though at kirkwood

1394
01:12:22,410 --> 01:12:20,980
mother said well he didn't have a liquor

1395
01:12:24,810 --> 01:12:22,420
license they couldn't have been drinking

1396
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:24,820
they could and they did because let me

1397
01:12:29,940 --> 01:12:27,370
tell folks i was young kid but i had

1398
01:12:31,530 --> 01:12:29,950
been working part time to start telegram

1399
01:12:33,780 --> 01:12:31,540
do some of the reporters and i went in

1400
01:12:37,040 --> 01:12:33,790
there and I got liquor drinks okay

1401
01:12:40,350 --> 01:12:37,050
because if you were anybody a cop or a

1402
01:12:42,300 --> 01:12:40,360
city or county official then Pat

1403
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:42,310
Kirkwood was trying to curry favor with

1404
01:12:47,820 --> 01:12:44,770
you you got a mixed drink and it was a

1405
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:47,830
pretty stiff one too so once they kicked

1406
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:49,450
the Secret Service agents out of the

1407
01:12:53,580 --> 01:12:51,610
press club because of it was after hours

1408
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:53,590
and they were afraid they were going to

1409
01:12:57,330 --> 01:12:55,360
lose their liquor license they called up

1410
01:12:59,820 --> 01:12:57,340
at Kirkwood and said can we send these

1411
01:13:02,820 --> 01:12:59,830
secret service agents over to you he's

1412
01:13:03,270 --> 01:13:02,830
all yeah send them on over so he took

1413
01:13:04,770 --> 01:13:03,280
care of

1414
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:04,780
them and they drank till five in the

1415
01:13:09,150 --> 01:13:06,970
morning and that's why the next day in

1416
01:13:11,910 --> 01:13:09,160
Dallas when shut started going off if

1417
01:13:13,950 --> 01:13:11,920
you'll notice there was only one Secret

1418
01:13:16,260 --> 01:13:13,960
Service agent that actually reacted

1419
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:16,270
quickly and that was Clint Hill who

1420
01:13:20,010 --> 01:13:18,850
jumped off the follow-up car rushed up

1421
01:13:22,170 --> 01:13:20,020
and jumped on the back to the

1422
01:13:25,380 --> 01:13:22,180
presidential limousine now you're ready

1423
01:13:27,870 --> 01:13:25,390
for this Clint Hill was originally not

1424
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:27,880
even supposed to be on that protection

1425
01:13:32,670 --> 01:13:30,670
detail and he was not assigned to

1426
01:13:34,980 --> 01:13:32,680
President Kennedy he was assigned to

1427
01:13:37,650 --> 01:13:34,990
Jackie Kennedy and at the last minute

1428
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:37,660
she said oh I really like Clint Hill I

1429
01:13:43,350 --> 01:13:40,000
want him along so the last minute they

1430
01:13:46,320 --> 01:13:43,360
included Clint Hill in on the Service

1431
01:13:48,030 --> 01:13:46,330
protection unit there in Dallas and he

1432
01:13:50,610 --> 01:13:48,040
was the only one that reacted when the

1433
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:50,620
shots went off just another little kid

1434
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:52,570
bit of information for all you

1435
01:13:59,900 --> 01:13:55,840
conspiracy fans and it looks like that

1436
01:14:02,820 --> 01:13:59,910
we're about to run out of time here so

1437
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:02,830
let me give you the number seen write it

1438
01:14:10,890 --> 01:14:05,290
down for next time it's aight aight

1439
01:14:16,530 --> 01:14:10,900
aight at 192 355 this is your permanent

1440
01:14:19,610 --> 01:14:16,540
temporary floating host Jim Marrs giving

1441
01:14:22,980 --> 01:14:19,620
you the view from Mars here on this

1442
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:22,990
bamhi Monday night I say bomb me because

1443
01:14:29,370 --> 01:14:26,320
it only hit about 95 today here but

1444
01:14:34,710 --> 01:14:29,380
listen after 44 days of triple-digit

1445
01:14:39,060 --> 01:14:34,720
heat 95 seem pretty bombing so I thank

1446
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:39,070
everyone for participating and be sure

1447
01:14:44,550 --> 01:14:41,290
and come catch my talk on the

1448
01:14:48,210 --> 01:14:44,560
twenty-eighth you can get the details at

1449
01:14:50,430 --> 01:14:48,220
the epic voyagers website be sure and

1450
01:14:54,810 --> 01:14:50,440
check out my new website it's coming up

1451
01:14:57,090 --> 01:14:54,820
I don't think it's quite there yet write

1452
01:14:58,800 --> 01:14:57,100
it down stick it your pocket in about a

1453
01:15:02,520 --> 01:14:58,810
week from now pull it out and then go

1454
01:15:06,240 --> 01:15:02,530
check it out but jim marrs calm ji MMA

1455
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:06,250
RRS comm check it out I've got a brand

1456
01:15:10,860 --> 01:15:08,080
new website coming out it's got all the

1457
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:10,870
bells and whistles and floating things

1458
01:15:17,250 --> 01:15:14,530
and music and animation and nah man lots

1459
01:15:31,770 --> 01:15:17,260
of good stuff it and I always remember

1460
01:15:36,220 --> 01:15:33,790
thank you for being with us tonight

1461
01:15:37,660 --> 01:15:36,230
please join us again next Monday evening

1462
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:37,670
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